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2017-02-09 15:41 House intervention / intervention en chambre

Electoral reform, Opposition motions, Referenda

Référendums, Réforme électorale,

Madam Speaker, in 2007, I was very involved in the referendum in Ontario. I have seen the electoral reform debate up close and personal. Referendums do serve a purpose. I do not object to them philosophically. They have a role, but here is the thing.

On an electoral reform referendum, if 55% of the population votes for a change and 45% does not, on the basis that 45% of the people's votes did not count, what have we really accomplished? Are we not being extraordinarily ironic in saying a little over half the country agrees with this change, therefore the ones who do not agree, whom we are trying to protect in the first place, do not matter yet again? It seems a great contradiction to me.

Madame la Présidente, en 2007, j'ai participé très activement au référendum en Ontario. J'ai vu le débat sur la réforme électorale de près. Les référendums ont un but. Je n’y vois pas d’objection de principe. Ils ont un rôle à jouer, mais le problème est le suivant.

Si, lors d’un référendum sur la réforme électorale, 55 % de la population vote pour un changement et que 45 % ne le fait pas, compte tenu du fait que 45 % des votes du peuple n’ont pas compté, qu'avons-nous réellement accompli? N’y a-t-il pas un paradoxe extraordinaire à dire qu'un peu plus de la moitié du pays est d'accord avec ce changement, et que ceux qui ne sont pas d'accord, c’est-à-dire justement ceux que nous essayons de protéger, n'ont donc encore une fois pas d'importance? Cela me paraît être une sérieuse contradiction.

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Posted at 15:26 on February 09, 2017

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